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	<title>Comments on: After The Earthquake, Then Came The Missionaries</title>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reference to practical aid in the website?  Can&#039;t find it myself.  All I can find is Faith comes by hearing piggy-backing on other organisations&#039; efforts to spread their &#039;word.&#039;  This makes their actions even more despicable - these other groups should surely be concentrating on saving lives and alleviating suffering rather than making sure someone has a &#039;proclaimer.&#039;

I also don&#039;t think that it is patronising to suggest that people who have just suffered a major natural disaster are vulnerable.  Of course they are capable of making their own judgements.  All I&#039;m saying is that these judgements needn&#039;t be influenced by someone else&#039;s prejudices.  I stand by the third paragraph in the last comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reference to practical aid in the website?  Can&#8217;t find it myself.  All I can find is Faith comes by hearing piggy-backing on other organisations&#8217; efforts to spread their &#8216;word.&#8217;  This makes their actions even more despicable &#8211; these other groups should surely be concentrating on saving lives and alleviating suffering rather than making sure someone has a &#8216;proclaimer.&#8217;</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think that it is patronising to suggest that people who have just suffered a major natural disaster are vulnerable.  Of course they are capable of making their own judgements.  All I&#8217;m saying is that these judgements needn&#8217;t be influenced by someone else&#8217;s prejudices.  I stand by the third paragraph in the last comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan B</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-2762&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2762&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stu&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;“No it isn’t. However, reasonable people baulk at the fact that these organisations are spending time and money – which could be used to alleviate suffering – to spead their ‘word’ whilst Haitians are dying! Also, they’re not distributing aid at the same time. .
The thing that sickens me the most is that wherever I look I see the religious rushing in to any disaster zone to exploit the vulnerable and convert those who are at their lowest ebb.
So, no this isn’t the most important issue but it is one that reasonable people should be very wary of.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, there is a reference in the &#039;Faith comes by hearing&#039; website to practical aid.

And I think the assumption that the &#039;vulnerability&#039; of the Haitians is being exploited suggests a fairly patronising view that they are incapable of making their own judgements (and I&#039;d say exactly the same if Cuba or China or the USA were sending political propaganda).</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-2762" rel="nofollow">Stu</a> :</strong>“No it isn’t. However, reasonable people baulk at the fact that these organisations are spending time and money – which could be used to alleviate suffering – to spead their ‘word’ whilst Haitians are dying! Also, they’re not distributing aid at the same time. .<br />
The thing that sickens me the most is that wherever I look I see the religious rushing in to any disaster zone to exploit the vulnerable and convert those who are at their lowest ebb.<br />
So, no this isn’t the most important issue but it is one that reasonable people should be very wary of.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, there is a reference in the &#8216;Faith comes by hearing&#8217; website to practical aid.</p>
<p>And I think the assumption that the &#8216;vulnerability&#8217; of the Haitians is being exploited suggests a fairly patronising view that they are incapable of making their own judgements (and I&#8217;d say exactly the same if Cuba or China or the USA were sending political propaganda).</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is the fact that some religious organisations are distributing bibles along with aid really the most important issue to arise from the Haitian disaster?&quot;

No it isn&#039;t.  However, reasonable people baulk at the fact that these organisations are spending time and money - which could be used to alleviate suffering - to spead their &#039;word&#039; whilst Haitians are dying!  Also, they&#039;re not distributing aid at the same time.  Faith comes by hearing are not spending any money on helping people - just making sure they have plenty of bibles.

The thing that sickens me the most is that wherever I look I see the religious rushing in to any disaster zone to exploit the vulnerable and convert those who are at their lowest ebb.

So, no this isn&#039;t the most important issue but it is one that reasonable people should be very wary of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is the fact that some religious organisations are distributing bibles along with aid really the most important issue to arise from the Haitian disaster?&#8221;</p>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t.  However, reasonable people baulk at the fact that these organisations are spending time and money &#8211; which could be used to alleviate suffering &#8211; to spead their &#8216;word&#8217; whilst Haitians are dying!  Also, they&#8217;re not distributing aid at the same time.  Faith comes by hearing are not spending any money on helping people &#8211; just making sure they have plenty of bibles.</p>
<p>The thing that sickens me the most is that wherever I look I see the religious rushing in to any disaster zone to exploit the vulnerable and convert those who are at their lowest ebb.</p>
<p>So, no this isn&#8217;t the most important issue but it is one that reasonable people should be very wary of.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan B</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;.... it’s good to see religion and quasi-religion still has a part to play in the recovery process.&#039;

The Red Cross and most of the charities that form the Disasters Emergency Committee were founded by religious organisations.

If it wasn&#039;t for the religious organisations and national governments (whose actions are rarely disinterested) there probably wouldn&#039;t be a recovery process.

Is the fact that some religious organisations are distributing bibles along with aid really the most important issue to arise from the Haitian disaster?

Shouldn&#039;t we be asking why a country that could conceivably be reasonably secure and prosperous, is so vulnerable to disaster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;. it’s good to see religion and quasi-religion still has a part to play in the recovery process.&#8217;</p>
<p>The Red Cross and most of the charities that form the Disasters Emergency Committee were founded by religious organisations.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for the religious organisations and national governments (whose actions are rarely disinterested) there probably wouldn&#8217;t be a recovery process.</p>
<p>Is the fact that some religious organisations are distributing bibles along with aid really the most important issue to arise from the Haitian disaster?</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t we be asking why a country that could conceivably be reasonably secure and prosperous, is so vulnerable to disaster?</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Matos</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2726</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Matos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This web site is great, but I&#039;m sorry you won&#039;t be able to change things.
Humans are bacterias destroying the Earth and there is no antibioc to cure it... 
Imagine in the future the human conquering and living on other planets...
People taking homepathy, going to the church and using burkas on Mars, where the dictator is communist, with billions of slaves producing cheap goods.... please... there are already 7 billion and no hope to change. They&#039;ve won and I hope it finishes soon. We deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This web site is great, but I&#8217;m sorry you won&#8217;t be able to change things.<br />
Humans are bacterias destroying the Earth and there is no antibioc to cure it&#8230;<br />
Imagine in the future the human conquering and living on other planets&#8230;<br />
People taking homepathy, going to the church and using burkas on Mars, where the dictator is communist, with billions of slaves producing cheap goods&#8230;. please&#8230; there are already 7 billion and no hope to change. They&#8217;ve won and I hope it finishes soon. We deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jemima Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jemima Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These stupid ignorant Haitians; if only they were enlightened Europeans and had stocked their shelves with copies of Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens, life would be so much better. Good to remind ourselves how superior we are, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These stupid ignorant Haitians; if only they were enlightened Europeans and had stocked their shelves with copies of Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens, life would be so much better. Good to remind ourselves how superior we are, though.</p>
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		<title>By: London Lulz</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/01/after-the-earthquake-then-came-the-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator>London Lulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly:

Don&#039;t get me wrong, a lot of religious organisations have been doing outstanding work out there (CAFOD and Christian Aid to name but two). Also, if I imagine that the christians out there want as many pastors on hand as possible.

But this is ridiculous. Let&#039;s get the injuries, homelessness, and disease sorted first. Anything else is to put the people of haiti&#039;s needs second before our own society&#039;s wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is silly:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, a lot of religious organisations have been doing outstanding work out there (CAFOD and Christian Aid to name but two). Also, if I imagine that the christians out there want as many pastors on hand as possible.</p>
<p>But this is ridiculous. Let&#8217;s get the injuries, homelessness, and disease sorted first. Anything else is to put the people of haiti&#8217;s needs second before our own society&#8217;s wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point - it makes up the Western side of Hispaniola. Happy to admit my confusion, I guess it&#039;s like calling Ireland and island, when there&#039;s two countries to it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point &#8211; it makes up the Western side of Hispaniola. Happy to admit my confusion, I guess it&#8217;s like calling Ireland and island, when there&#8217;s two countries to it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pasjoesja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pasjoesja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haiti is not an island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haiti is not an island.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice on the news that the first people leaving Haiti after the quake were the Christian missionaries already there? So much for being there in the Haitians greatest time of need! What they need is supplies and medical help- not false hope in the unknowable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice on the news that the first people leaving Haiti after the quake were the Christian missionaries already there? So much for being there in the Haitians greatest time of need! What they need is supplies and medical help- not false hope in the unknowable!</p>
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