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	<title>Comments on: Another Rat-Zinger From The Pope</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2944</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The major problem here, as far as I see it, is that he has any voice whatsoever, and that it is reported so widely.  I was recently at a christening where baby had been through it with hole in heart.

An operation later, some excellent care from Alder hey and she&#039;s right as rain.

They are my very good friends, and so don&#039;t get the wrong idea, I respect them fully for the journey they have been through and the apparent miracle that has transpired, and their beliefs surrounding it.

But I felt that the thanks offered during speeches  could have at least made mention of the outstanding medical care she received.  The years of training the doctors and consultants had undertaken, the adherance to best practice that all the medical professionals delivered and the incredible and always surprising bravery of those who take a knife to such a delicate little creature.

All of the above not mentioned at all.  Just the usual &quot;if there&#039;s someone up there looking after us then we&#039;re grateful.....&quot; and so on.

Credit where credit is due.  Rat burger gets credit for trying to kill people.  Doctors for keeping them alive.  Hmmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The major problem here, as far as I see it, is that he has any voice whatsoever, and that it is reported so widely.  I was recently at a christening where baby had been through it with hole in heart.</p>
<p>An operation later, some excellent care from Alder hey and she&#8217;s right as rain.</p>
<p>They are my very good friends, and so don&#8217;t get the wrong idea, I respect them fully for the journey they have been through and the apparent miracle that has transpired, and their beliefs surrounding it.</p>
<p>But I felt that the thanks offered during speeches  could have at least made mention of the outstanding medical care she received.  The years of training the doctors and consultants had undertaken, the adherance to best practice that all the medical professionals delivered and the incredible and always surprising bravery of those who take a knife to such a delicate little creature.</p>
<p>All of the above not mentioned at all.  Just the usual &#8220;if there&#8217;s someone up there looking after us then we&#8217;re grateful&#8230;..&#8221; and so on.</p>
<p>Credit where credit is due.  Rat burger gets credit for trying to kill people.  Doctors for keeping them alive.  Hmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2930</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertarianism just means non-aggression of force. It is currently not practised anywhere in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertarianism just means non-aggression of force. It is currently not practised anywhere in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: OJB</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2929</link>
		<dc:creator>OJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right freedom is great for everyone, but libertarianism certainly isn&#039;t (at least the libertarianism as it is practices in the real world).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right freedom is great for everyone, but libertarianism certainly isn&#8217;t (at least the libertarianism as it is practices in the real world).</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

Most times the best person for the job will be given it, because most business owners are decent people who want good workers. the question is, should it be the job of government to decide who you can and cannot hire?

It cuts both ways, if you started up your own business and you had several applicants, one of which was a skinhead and known racist but was actually the best qualified to perform the job you were hiring for, wouldn&#039;t you want to be able to not hire him?

Freedom of association should  not be legislated against. Even though I *personally* abhor racism, and would not give business to any company that was discriminating against people for such a thing, I would never support the government *forcing* that company to do what it wants, like my article said, that kind of behaviour can be punished in the marketplace far more effectively, and market regulation eliminates all the unforeseen side effects of one size fits all government regulation and it&#039;s also the most ethically consistent position if you believe in private property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>Most times the best person for the job will be given it, because most business owners are decent people who want good workers. the question is, should it be the job of government to decide who you can and cannot hire?</p>
<p>It cuts both ways, if you started up your own business and you had several applicants, one of which was a skinhead and known racist but was actually the best qualified to perform the job you were hiring for, wouldn&#8217;t you want to be able to not hire him?</p>
<p>Freedom of association should  not be legislated against. Even though I *personally* abhor racism, and would not give business to any company that was discriminating against people for such a thing, I would never support the government *forcing* that company to do what it wants, like my article said, that kind of behaviour can be punished in the marketplace far more effectively, and market regulation eliminates all the unforeseen side effects of one size fits all government regulation and it&#8217;s also the most ethically consistent position if you believe in private property.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happen to think freedom is great for everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to think freedom is great for everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Gittins</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>Gittins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertarianism is great if you&#039;re a wealthy business owner. Otherwise, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertarianism is great if you&#8217;re a wealthy business owner. Otherwise, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2920</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just read the link supplied by Jack.  I must say I found the tone of the article a bit absolutist - I&#039;ll assume that anyone reading this has seen the article.

Anti discrimination legislation has never been designed to force employers to recruit the second or third (etc) best canditate for a job based on them being a member of a &#039;minority&#039; group.  Any person who cries discrimination on the grounds of their gender/race/sexual orientation would have to prove it.  Theuklibertarian would like people to believe this isn&#039;t the case and that the new laws would open the floodgates of court cases.

If a &#039;minority&#039; person is the best candidate for the job then they should be given it.  Any reasonable person must see this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read the link supplied by Jack.  I must say I found the tone of the article a bit absolutist &#8211; I&#8217;ll assume that anyone reading this has seen the article.</p>
<p>Anti discrimination legislation has never been designed to force employers to recruit the second or third (etc) best canditate for a job based on them being a member of a &#8216;minority&#8217; group.  Any person who cries discrimination on the grounds of their gender/race/sexual orientation would have to prove it.  Theuklibertarian would like people to believe this isn&#8217;t the case and that the new laws would open the floodgates of court cases.</p>
<p>If a &#8216;minority&#8217; person is the best candidate for the job then they should be given it.  Any reasonable person must see this.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2915</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great to see the government not pay for Razzy&#039;s visit but I&#039;ve got a feeling that just won&#039;t happen especially in an election year. 

I&#039;m glad you mentioned Mother Teresa aswell she doesn&#039;t get half the condemnation she should for everything she did.

A woman who once said after her involvement in a hard fought battle trying to keep divorce ILLEGAL thats right ILLEGAL in Ireland, &quot;I&#039;m so glad my friend Diana finally got out of that loveless marriage&quot; 

Christopher Hitchen&#039;s did a great critique of her in his book The Missionary Position. Look up Hells Angel on youtube aswell which is the T.V documentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great to see the government not pay for Razzy&#8217;s visit but I&#8217;ve got a feeling that just won&#8217;t happen especially in an election year. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you mentioned Mother Teresa aswell she doesn&#8217;t get half the condemnation she should for everything she did.</p>
<p>A woman who once said after her involvement in a hard fought battle trying to keep divorce ILLEGAL thats right ILLEGAL in Ireland, &#8220;I&#8217;m so glad my friend Diana finally got out of that loveless marriage&#8221; </p>
<p>Christopher Hitchen&#8217;s did a great critique of her in his book The Missionary Position. Look up Hells Angel on youtube aswell which is the T.V documentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2010/02/another-rat-zinger-from-the-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-2914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pope is right (I never thought I would say that). This legislation violates individuals&#039; freedom of association.

http://theuklibertarian.com/2010/02/02/the-pope-is-right-for-once-employers-should-be-able-to-discriminate-against-homosexuals/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pope is right (I never thought I would say that). This legislation violates individuals&#8217; freedom of association.</p>
<p><a href="http://theuklibertarian.com/2010/02/02/the-pope-is-right-for-once-employers-should-be-able-to-discriminate-against-homosexuals/" rel="nofollow">http://theuklibertarian.com/2010/02/02/the-pope-is-right-for-once-employers-should-be-able-to-discriminate-against-homosexuals/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ex Nazi isn&#039;t the only one with African blood on his hands - the polish goalkeeper was just as bad!

Strictly speaking the document threatening excommunication was written by the vatican in 1962 with the seal of john XXII (http://tiny.cc/TOlGg)
 - Ratzinger was reminding the bishops that it was still valid when he wrote his letter in 2001.

It would be nice if the catholics had to pay for the visit themselves.  If enough people sign the petition maybe the government will refuse to pay and the vatican will call it off in a huff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ex Nazi isn&#8217;t the only one with African blood on his hands &#8211; the polish goalkeeper was just as bad!</p>
<p>Strictly speaking the document threatening excommunication was written by the vatican in 1962 with the seal of john XXII (<a href="http://tiny.cc/TOlGg" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/TOlGg</a>)<br />
 &#8211; Ratzinger was reminding the bishops that it was still valid when he wrote his letter in 2001.</p>
<p>It would be nice if the catholics had to pay for the visit themselves.  If enough people sign the petition maybe the government will refuse to pay and the vatican will call it off in a huff.</p>
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