Be Reasonable: Episode #006 – Naveena Shine

Naveena Shine recently made the headlines with her 6 month-long ‘Living on Light’ experiment into living without food – an experiment she ended after just 47 days. Marsh spoke to her about Living on Light, and whether she thinks human beings really can survive without food.

  1. #1 by James B on June 24, 2013 - 19:03

    Quite an interesting episode, bit of a mistake on her part to play the quantum physics gambit so early I thought. She seems to be a tad confused about how science and the scientific method works. Still 47 days without food is 47 days longer than I fancy going without food.

  2. #2 by B. Root on June 25, 2013 - 20:42

    She sounds a bit… senile. Maybe that explains a lot of the fuzzy logic and wishy-washy thinking. Also, now I’m hungry.

  3. #3 by NickT on June 26, 2013 - 14:04

    There was a Mythbusters episode (Ep. 107) where fire walking was indeed tested. They found clear scientific explanations for the ability to walk across hot coals.

    B.Root: Assuming senility from listening to someone in an interview is not logical either.

    Another really interesting episode, thanks Hayley and Marsh.

  4. #4 by Sarah on June 26, 2013 - 18:12

    Another great show, thank you! It took me a couple of goes to get through due to the early introduction quantum. I really feel people discussing quantum theory should have to prove they know what they’re talking about before they can extrapolate from it. Nothing serious, just a few questions from an undergrad physics course or something. If they can’t answer those then they have no place using quantum theory to explain other unexplained/impossible things. I’m getting really fed up with it being the ‘go to’ explanation for anything ‘woo’ and really think there needs to be a serious attempt to reclaim the field for science.

  5. #5 by Jack Lewis on June 28, 2013 - 20:17

    “B.Root: Assuming senility from listening to someone in an interview is not logical either.”

    How it it not logical based on the idiotic drivel that comes out of her mouth during said interview? Perhaps not eating for 47 days causes senility (or is it just a pre-requisite to try such a thing?)

    Would have been nice to know what sort of “preparation” was alluded to all during this interview. I love this bit about all you need is one person making the claim for the belief to be taken into consideration, I should send her an email saying I can fly, at the risk of having her jump off a building LOL!

  6. #6 by kungfuhobbit on July 4, 2013 - 23:23

    I think it was David Colquhoun who suggested the heuristic that if you cant talk about Quantum Mechanics while citing a relevant PDE, you can be dismissed?!

  7. #7 by Simon S. on October 10, 2013 - 12:00

    Well done Marsh for you patience and calmness in this interview – I don’t know how you manage it without sounding like your tearing your hair out in frustration. I wish you’d asked Naveena about her feelings of hunger and how much she thought and fantasised about food while undergoing this fast/starvation, and whether that was revealing about her body’s needs.

    The new age use of the word quantum to justify unproven or outlandish claims is really just a substitute for “its spooky or weird or magic and I don’t really understand it” while trying to sound scientifically credible.

    My understanding of the fire-walking “trick” is that its all about waiting long enough for the flames to die down enough and for plenty of ash to form around the coals (and raking over them to help that along) and the walk not being too long. 25-30ft is probably OK, but build one 100ft long and you’ll be visiting hospital with 1st or 2nd degree burns.

  8. #8 by Marfi on June 17, 2020 - 04:41

    Anyone who has tried the keto diet and has fasted will know that we CAN indeed go without for for quite a long time. I sometimes fasted for 5 days without much hunger. In the 2 keto dudes podcast, they cite a person who fasted for around a year. If you have enough fuel (fast) on your body, being in ketosis means that your body is using that fat as fuel (and not using carbohydrates which most people use for fuel). Once that fuel runs out, however, the body starts breaking down organs to make its fuel. Therefore, no-one can go without food indefinitely.
    If she claims she can live without food, why doesn’t she do it permanently?

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