Be Reasonable: Episode #012 – Beth Arzy

Beth Arzy is a trainee investigator and team secretary for the Ghost Finder Paranormal Society (GPS). The GPS team was founded in 2007 by Barry Ghai and Ian Wilce and describe themselves as ‘an experienced group of professional ghost hunters and paranormal experts that operate across most parts of the United Kingdom investigating reports of hauntings, poltergeists, residual energy and all forms of paranormal or supernatural phenomena.’

  1. #1 by Wesley Harding on January 3, 2014 - 13:55

    “You try everything until you get the desired response”. Says it all, really.

  2. #2 by Beth Arzy on January 5, 2014 - 16:23

    You know what pal? We all have questions and we seek answers. Christians, scientists, skeptics, paranormal researchers…

    I think we ALL know there is something going on that is beyond our understanding, and I take my hat off to anyone who is out there looking for the truth, be it in scientific, religious or paranormal studies.

    NONE of us know what’s going on, how we got here, why we are here or what is out there.

    Anyone who looks for answers and is tolerant of others is OK in my book. It’s not my job to tell others they’re wrong, but to go about my business finding out in my own way.

    Peace out.

  3. #3 by Murff on January 9, 2014 - 00:49

    I think the point he was making is that if you are looking for the truth, you don’t have a “desired response “.

  4. #4 by Tracy M on January 10, 2014 - 15:35

    I think one of the sticking points is an understanding on what counts as a scientific investigation. Part of science is developing a clear and precise hypothesis that focuses on one thing. The next part seems somewhat counterintuitive, but in science, you then set out to design experiments to disprove your hypothesis. Most people think it is the other way around, that one goes out and collects data to support your hypothesis. There also seems to be a mindset that if something can’t be explained, and then it has to be a ghost. This sets up a sort of “Ghost of the Gaps” argument. When mundane explanations are presented, then there is a shift to focus on other anomalies.

    Many skeptics come across as dismissive and cynical, and that is an unfortunate thing. Mike & Haley, both try very hard to gain a perspective on the how & why people believe what they believe. From comments for past shows and now, many skeptics seem to miss the point of this show. It isn’t to tear down people’s passions & beliefs, but to try to understand what leads them to that belief.

    As skeptics, not only do we need to know the basics of science and critical thinking, we also need to school ourselves in understanding the human condition. As good ghost investigators, learning a bit more about the basics of scientific method and critical thinking will make you better investigators.

    I was once a true believer, coming from a family of true believers. I had experiences that I chalked up to ghost encounters, but I have since learned the ways we fool ourselves. As a skeptic, I have no proof there is or isn’t an afterlife. However, the evidence (or lack of) I’ve seen thus far leaves me doubtful. I would welcome if there is good evidence to support the existence of an afterlife, it would make the realization that our mortal lives are short more bearable.

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