Be Reasonable: Episode #023 – Eugene McCarthy


Joining me this episode is Dr Eugene McCarthy from macroevolution.net. Eugene’s work explores the theory that a conventional view of evolution is incomplete, and that cross-species hybridisation played a significant role in the development of many modern species, including humans.

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  1. #1 by Chris on November 27, 2014 - 18:43

    You know what is bad? I listened to this yesterday, and today I am watching a Muppets movie. One of the many Miss Piggy trying to get Kermit the Frog to marry her. Very weird.

  2. #2 by Al Hibbs on December 2, 2014 - 19:25

    I want to complain about the interviewer. It became clear by half way through, he had not read the summary document about the theory. He was not aware of the key evidence and counter-arguments about the incumbent view as it stands.
    This is really insulting to the scientist, and hypocritical of the interviewer who spent the second ignorantly repeating “but would ever admit wasn’t true” when it is not that scientist exposed for the closed book he was, but the interviewer.
    It’s embarrassing having to sit through that. The guy has a well researched idea with a large amount of significant argument and evidence, and the interviewer didn’t have the respect to read a 4 or 5 page summary document.
    Sack him. He’s an embarassment

  3. #3 by Chris on December 6, 2014 - 16:05

    So you want Marsh to be sacked from an unpaid gig?

    Perhaps you should be sacked for commenting since you did not figure out the name of the interviewer. By the way here is some additional reading:
    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/07/02/the-mfap-hypothesis-for-the-origins-of-homo-sapiens/

  4. #4 by Simon on December 9, 2014 - 15:30

    Thanks for this interview, thought provoking at least.

    A couple of articles on phys.org regarding this topic:

    http://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html

    and

    http://phys.org/news/2013-07-human-hybrids-closer-theory-evidence.html

  5. #5 by Rebs on February 13, 2015 - 09:22

    This pig idea is so crazy. I would let him run along with it. It’s his life’s work. Too bad about the peer reviewed publications though. Perhaps he will cry Galileo?

    The interviewer doesn’t have to have in experts understanding of the so called experts books. It up to the expert to make a valid argument to explain his ideas to the public. The expert did a woeful job of it that’s for sure.

  6. #6 by Peter Hewitt on March 6, 2015 - 12:27

    Eugene McCarthy seems a reasonable man and the idea may have some validity and certainly in the distant past the ancestors of pigs and ancestors of humans but whether they have done so relatively recently seems unlikely but perhaps not impossible.

    I have little knowledge of genetics but perhaps a geneticist could comment whether a single event would have a lasting effect on the genome or be washed away by time so any physical similarities be negligible and for any significant exchange of genome would multiple instances of cross breeding be necessary?

    Also I would think the mechanism would be more likely to be a male ape ancestor impregnating a female pig ancestor and therefore more likely to be brought up and intermingle with pigs rather than the alternative e.g. introducing ape DNA into pigs rather then pig DNA into humans.

    It was only recently that it became accepted that neanderthals interbred with homo sapiens sapiens and added to our genome so perhaps it is worthy of some investigation

  7. #7 by Byron on April 28, 2017 - 22:57

    Is it more likely that pigs, monkeys, and humans all have a common ancestor or that a monkey fucked a pig and the pig shit out a human?

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