Be Reasonable: Episode #037 – Joey Talley


Joining Marsh today is Reverend Joey Talley – a Wiccan Witch who claims to be able to prevent computer viruses, solve technical issues and much, much more, using Wiccan spells.

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  1. #1 by Jon from the States on April 11, 2016 - 21:11

    Wow, I feel compelled, as an American, to apologize for this woman. Her half-understanding of the terminology she’s using is not only worse than having no understanding, it’s a symptomatic problem in my society. When we make these kinds of assumptions based off of unprovable hypotheses, we get conspiracy theory, gay conversion therapy, polygraphs, and snake oil of all varieties. The legacy of the medicine show is alive in my country, kept around by the false skepticism of “well you can’t prove it doesn’t work.”

  2. #2 by NonMerseySkeptic on April 11, 2016 - 22:48

    Goodness, that was really painful. Not as bad as the Big Shots in the world of medical denialism and charlatanry, but close.
    The rehearsed responses to US Christian opinions, unaware that her audience is mostly not Christian. The constant mispronunciations of concepts she clearly does not understand (otherwise she would have had to spend enough time with them to not consistently get them wrong). The complete lack of awareness that she is doing harm, even when it is pointed out to her directly. And most telling: she a) did the interview in the first place, which is not a Wiccan thing to do, a bit like a Jain working in a slaughterhouse and b) did not mention Gardner once. The overwhelming impression is of someone who has found a way to make herself feel important, and as sad as it would be, it would be tolerable if she did not also hurt others.

    HUGE kudos though for not giving up on the energy question. Exactly what I had hoped for.

  3. #3 by DocM on April 12, 2016 - 11:59

    “Hey”, I thought, “a wiccan. Those are nice. Touchy feely natury, not like the people Marsh usually has on.”

    And then the floodgates opened.

    So, fair warning to everybody else: This episode is no easier to listen to than all the others. Joey Talley takes the term “wiccan” as a license to believe whatever she likes, and tell people stuff based on these beliefs. Congratulations to Marsh for pointing out the dangers of this in a careful, non-threatening way.

  4. #4 by Rob on April 13, 2016 - 11:33

    Chloride to fix a PC?! Are you mad?!

    Oh you mean Fluoride, oh that’s obviously fine then…

    The mind seriously boggles, what internal processes must go on for someone to think this way?

  5. #5 by astrotimer on April 16, 2016 - 06:37

    Nature called and said you don’t understand me at all.

  6. #6 by oskar on April 16, 2016 - 22:44

    How does a Wiccan rid a computer of cryptolocker? I wonder if nature understands cryptanalysis.

  7. #7 by Conrad on May 12, 2016 - 21:17

    I was listening to this on the bus and literally face-palmed when she mentioned “Dr.” Masaru Emoto. The methods of testing hypotheses are unknown unknowns to these people but the real problem is they have no desire to properly find out cause and effect. When Marsh pointed this out and mentioned RCTs massive alarm bells should’ve been ringing for the Reverend – but instead she kept on banging on about energy and auras!

  8. #8 by Michael on May 24, 2016 - 08:48

    Wait, it’s a western northern Europe ancient belief system which used her Egyptian tarot cards for.

  9. #9 by Frank on March 11, 2017 - 15:27

    Holy crap! This crazy woman accused a little girl of putting a curse on her stepmother. Sorry sweetheart, but no amount of “family counseling” can repair the damage.

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