Be Reasonable: Episode #058 – Jouke Elsinga

Joining Marsh this episode is Jouke Elsinga, co-founder of the YouTube channel Pure Gospel of Flat Earth.

  1. #1 by Max on February 26, 2019 - 10:02

    Pretty wild that a person puts on an air of skepticism and disbelief and critical acumen when it comes to the moon landing (“obvious fakes, people believe this because of interests and not because of the force of reason”) and then, without batting an eye, takes in the story of (or one of the stories?) the snake in the Garden of Eden literally and at face value.

  2. #2 by Patrick on February 27, 2019 - 02:28

    Always funny to see someone claim that Carbon Dating isn’t reliable because …. Seals…

    Yes carbon dating doesn’t work on seals. Because they are aquatic. Oceans are big. Vast, they circulate around the globe, they have underwater volcanoes that disturb sediments… Seal swims through all of that, absorbs ancient carbon, so if you want to call yourself Dr. Dino and make tons of money lying to people pretending you have an air of credibility and then go to jail for tax fraud, then yes… it is quite the easy target to carbon date aquatic creatures that are the most likely to have absorbed ancient carbon.

    Enough about Kent Hovind. I knew that guy was a fraud when I was like 14 years old. Probably because of my autism but I love wolves. I learned about wolves. The idea that the world was 6,000 years old just by my love of wolves alone that didn’t make any sense. The Dire Wolves, the Mega Faunal Wolves, the standard Canidae, the Foxes. You learn about how the wolves were hunted and almost became extinct, so then the foxes took over, but when the foxes were hunted they grew in numbers because they were a smarter bunch. So god just arbitrarily made wolves less teachable? For what purpose?

  3. #3 by Simon on February 28, 2019 - 05:23

    Pot, I would like you to meet kettle.

  4. #4 by Jim Hutton on March 1, 2019 - 17:46

    I do wish one would not debate people like this. They do not merit the oxygen of publicity.

  5. #5 by stefafra on March 5, 2019 - 17:53

    This poor guy has serious mental problems…..I think it is a bit unfair to expose to the listenerd (OK, not that he minds, he is a prolific youtuber). I

  6. #6 by Jason Barnes on March 15, 2019 - 22:17

    Not much from this guy we haven’t heard a dozen times before, and the audio was at times difficult to understand… but Marsh was really on his toes, and we got a bunch of great examples of precise, cogent, and non-aggressive argumentation. Bravo!

  7. #7 by Jonathon on March 21, 2019 - 03:36

    I don’t intend to promote these ideas… But why waste the god gift of anything being possible? Circumnavigation of the earth for instance, why waste brain power trying and construct a theory when god could have given the navigator the illusion of circumnavigation. Same with NASA, couldn’t god give them the illusion of space travel? Well done Michael.

  8. #8 by Ann Jones on September 14, 2019 - 14:24

    That was actually quite refreshing.
    Of course I’ve heard all of the guest’s arguments before, and find them very poor, but I’ve so often heard them shouted by angry, aggressive and insulting flat-earthers, so it was nice to hear someone calmly explaining their believes.

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