Be Reasonable: Episode #063 – Karma Singh


This episode, Marsh is joined by Karma Singh, an author and alternative healer, to discuss the cause of disease and the nature of viruses.

Content note: this interview contains a brief reference to sexual assault, at 34m30s.

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  1. #1 by Arlo on May 21, 2020 - 13:08

    When he said 5G I actually said “Oh my god” out loud (on my own because I’ve got COVID-19 symptoms)

  2. #2 by Tony Blackwell on May 21, 2020 - 23:36

    OMG! What a disaster. Marsh has so much more patients than I have.

  3. #3 by Mark on May 22, 2020 - 03:58

    Welcome back!

    I missed you!

  4. #4 by Kamil Julian Przyboś on May 22, 2020 - 10:00

    Marsh, I wish to have this ability to talk thru so calmly. Through out this episode my blood pressure was around 200 😉 In real life I would interrupt his around 1000 times and probably shout to the sky WTF?!

    Anyway I like Be Reasonable very much and hopefully you may find more people with COVID alternative theories. It sounds very interesting and teaches many od dick-head skeptics (like me) to talk maturely and respectfully.

    Thanks again!

  5. #5 by Michael Valkenberg on May 22, 2020 - 18:13

    As always, I’m astounded by Marsh‘s patience when confronted with such a cornucopia of bullshit. I’d challenge anybody to find three sentences uttered by Mr Singh in this interview that we’re not fundamentally wrong. Even the basic physics and chemistry stuff (electrons determine the atom) was false.

    What we should not forget, though, is that if what Singh says is true, he -in his carefully cultivated blissful ignorance – is very probably responsible for the deaths of vulnerable people. He is not some bullshit merchant plying useless vitamin supplements; he offers a whole alternativ reality. People who take his advice will almost certainly not take life-saving medicine.

  6. #6 by Cody Daniel Powell on May 23, 2020 - 08:59

    im so happy ur back and well

  7. #7 by Thomas Jackson on May 27, 2020 - 22:59

    Wow Marsh…that patience is amazing. I think I would have reached through the call and throttled this guy.

    Great to hear a new episode.

  8. #8 by Chris on May 28, 2020 - 22:35

    I believe we can safely say he has had no formal education in biology, physics and anything else. Obviously self taught, with a big slice of bigotry.

    Apparently in my neighborhood the “gay” lifestyle includes being married, raising kids, gardening, sewing, going to normal jobs and volunteering at their kids’s schools and sport teams. I guess I am only going on the folks who I interact with.

  9. #9 by Rob on May 29, 2020 - 11:11

    [On cancer] “…and then of course by law I’m not allowed to say any more”.
    Okay, so hints and implications aside let’s see what he does say about cancer.

    Here https://www.harmonyenergyconsultants.com/web/en/5-4-3_bookshop2.html he says
    “Healing cancer was the start [of my career]”

    And that links to here https://www.cancersowhat.com/ which says “This book [gives] much more specific advice on how cancers are created and what is necessary both to avoid cancer and to reverse it.”
    followed by a “The law requires me to tell you to go to an actual doctor” sentence which he immediately strongly contradicts by saying “So much for obligation. It is, of course, total nonsense. Visiting a doctor of conventional (allopathic/pharmaceutical) medicine is, statistically, the most dangerous action that a human could carry out: Pharmaceutical i.e. conventional medicine is the single most common cause of unnatural death and serious injury throughout the First World.”

    Healing cancer. Avoiding and reversing cancer. The law *eyeroll* says I have to tell you to go to a doctor but DO NOT GO TO A DOCTOR THAT’S THE MOST DANGEROUS THING YOU COULD DO.

    Ugh.

    But he has a nice beard so all harmless and holistic and spiritual and guru-y.

  10. #10 by Rob on May 29, 2020 - 12:55

    At 50:20, talking about homeopathy, he says “You can’t patent it”.
    I’ve heard this before, but today I wondered… A homeopathic formulation or manufacturing method would be a novel invention, which can be described in words and diagrams and has a practical application, so they sound like they *could* be patented.
    And indeed patents have been granted on homeopathic formulations and methods: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=Homeopathic&FIELD1=TI&co1=OR&TERM2=Homeopathy&FIELD2=TI&d=PTXT

    So that’s not true.

  11. #11 by Rob on May 29, 2020 - 13:00

    And here’s Boiron Canada: https://www.boiron.ca/en/boirons-good-practice/

    “Boiron uses the triple medication method, which is a specific patent that ensures homogeneous distribution. It takes 55 minutes to medicate 5 kg of globules.”

    So, yes, there are absolutely patents at work in the homeopathy industry.

  12. #12 by Rob on May 29, 2020 - 13:50

    I have questions about his “hydrogen cyanide pollution” hypothesis of COVID-19. Why have some cities in China, parts of Italy, parts of the US, the UK etc all suddenly been affected by hydrogen cyanide pollution so recently? And why in a sequence which appears to be consistent with a spreading viral infection?

  13. #13 by andy on May 29, 2020 - 15:26

    Welcome back
    Enjoyed the Karma Singh interview. At first I thought, OK, seems reasonable, energy pendant for health, sincere, serious, basically harmless.
    And having been to China many times, can agree that the air in many cities,is poisonous. This would make citizens more vulnerable to respiratory illness, without being the cause, in my opinion.
    As the conversation went on, his nonsense became dangerously unstable. HIV, no viruses, upside economics on homeopathy, wanted to throat punch him by the time he got to ‘surgeons only wear masks for 30 minutes’.
    Appreciated you giving him time and space to share his world view. It is helpful to hear from vastly differing views, gets me out of the echo chamber.
    Keep it up, we need a marketplace for ideas

  14. #14 by Linda on May 29, 2020 - 17:12

    From the cancersowhat.com page:
    It was only later that Karma Singh learned that very many “self-help” groups have been established by the pharmaceutical industry for the expressed purpose of denying sufferers access to effective techniques of dealing with their problems. One such group in England calls itself “The Nightingale Collaboration”, abusing the name of Florence Nightingale to promote the pharmaceutical industry.”
    Wow. I did not know that. (And I still don’t).

  15. #15 by John f on June 2, 2020 - 15:06

    We started off strong with a vaugley coherent introduction but then EVERYTHING he said about spark and car engines was incorrect. I could follow what he was talking about but it wasn’t true. Beyond that every sentence was just junk, how can someone learn so many words without learning what any of them mean.

  16. #16 by Alex on June 9, 2020 - 20:28

    Merseyside Skeptics is the epitome of the blind leading the blind. Organised and supported by a chorus of limited groupthink belief systems from the same education institutions that guides and shepherd the minds of the population to the same collective perception, or the ‘Postage Stamp Consensus’.

    This is a common and severely limited view of reality, possibility and ‘normal’ which children and students have spent the first phases of their lives daily downloading. Postage stamp perception goes like this: We live in a solid world and everything is apart from everything else; we are our name, race, background and whatever other labels we choose to apply to ourselves and each other; and history, physics, science, medicine and reality are all that The System says they are.

    Where is Infinite Awareness and All Possibility? They never get a mention. Postage Stamp Consensus is an infinitesimal speck of possibility, and when compared with infinite possibility the (systematic) myopia is staggering. This confirms the contention of German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer that ‘every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world’.

    Schopenhauer was born in 1788 and he was describing human society as it still is today. Not everyone buys the Postage Stamp reality, but the manipulators know that if they seize the minds of the great majority any dissenters or free thinkers will be largely kept in line by peer pressure. This is the process by which those who have bought the official version of normal insist that everyone else does the same or face collective ridicule, condemnation, dismissal or contempt.

    Postage Stamp Consensus is a collective standing wave construct. Collective thoughts sharing the same perceptions literally combine their compatible frequencies to create a standing wave oscillating on the spot and encompassing information or perception fields that reflect the accepted norms of what constitutes the world and reality. Schools and universities are founded on such standing waves and so are centres of politics, media etc. These standing waves and

    The information they oscillate in their stationary fields are added to every day by the thoughts and perceptions that emanate from those in their midst. Anyone entering these collective frequencies and oscillations who do not hold fast to their own personal oscillation (perceptions, values) find themselves being vibrated into line or ‘entrained’ into the collective oscillation (perceptions, beliefs, behaviour traits).

    This is how collective herd minds are formed as standing waves, and why many people go into politics for genuine reasons but soon become everything they went into politics to oppose. They have been entrained into the collective standing wave oscillation and so they think and behave as it does.

    Once you monopolise a sense of ‘normal’ everything else automatically follows. At least sheep need a shepherd and sheepdog to keep them in line. The System is the shepherd, but humans have long dispensed with the dog. They keep each other in line through the arrogance of ignorance and this is collective psychological fascism. Anyone who challenges the Postage Stamp is waved away as mad, stupid or dangerous and often (as with me) all three. This is no different from prisoners in a cell combining to stop another prisoner escaping and this can start at the earliest age.

    The world is run by people who are not very bright but think they are. This is a devastating combination. Politicians make decisions and impose laws based on their downloaded sense of ‘normal’ and most scientists make conclusions about reality from the same perspective. Doctors treat, academics teach, judges judge, lawyers advocate, CEOs rule and journalists report all from the same core belief in Postage Stamp normal. They are making decisions as if the world is solid (limitation) when it’s not (infinite possibility). Journalists writing about a health topic won’t go to an alternative practitioner who may have great understanding of the subject. They will consult a doctor who will quote the Postage Stamp.

    The same happens with any (rare) journalistic exploration into the nature of reality. They will go to scientists who sing from the song sheet. Postage Stamp programs and advocates confirm to each other and the public that the Postage Stamp is omnipotent when it is only an agreed-upon collective hallucination.

    I have met or observed at close range many people from all these society- directing professions and the scale of their perception programming never ceases to amaze, nor their arrogant dismissal of another view. Exceptions are so few they prove the rule. All day every day television shows wheel out ‘experts’ (usually the most perceptually programmed) to tell the public what to think and do. Perceptually-blind interviews perceptually-blind and they call it expertise.

    The educationally and perceptually programmed go on to become politicians, government administrators, scientists, doctors, academics, judges, lawyers, CEOs, journalists, etc. They take with them into those society-directing and controlling professions the core Postage Stamp programming and its sense of ‘normal’. They then spend the rest of their lives confirming to each other that their downloaded version of reality is how things are when it is largely myopic nonsense,

  17. #17 by Rob on June 14, 2020 - 09:15

    Alex,
    So that was a big chunk you quoted of David Icke’s book ‘Everything You Wanted To Know But Were Never Told’ https://archive.org/stream/DavidIckeEYWTKBWNT/David%20Icke%20-%20Everything%20You%20Wanted%20to%20Know%20But%20Were%20Never%20Told_djvu.txt.

    Do you have any specific thoughts about this episode?

  18. #18 by Chris on June 18, 2020 - 17:22

    Yes, we should all get our physics education from a former football player /sarcasm

  19. #19 by Karma Singh on August 19, 2020 - 10:18

    I’m sorry gentlefolk and folkesses – until today I hadn’t been aware that there was a comments section or I would have written earlier.

    The comments appear to be divided about 60/40% between those who have already “got it” or are well on their way to achieving this “blissful state” and those “If it were true, my doctor would have told me about it”. Have they considered the possibility that doctors whose training, you should well note, is determined by the pharmaceutical industry, are not only taught nothing about such matters because that would reduce pharmaceutical sales but deliberately told that such things do not exist.

    I won’t “preach to the converted”, they will seek their own further paths. I will, however, attempt to gather in the “straying lambs”.

    In primary school, at the age of 6, I was taught that black people don’t know how to dress properly. I’m not sure what use this “knowledge” was supposed to be to me and clearly remember thinking at the time, “Why don’t you teach them how to do it properly then?” The only difference that the ensuing 64 years have brought is that when I see arrant nonsense being peddled as truth, I speak out about it.

    I note that one or two have read the preface to “Cancer? So what?” and seek to condemn it on the basis of telling the truth about a compulsory but highly misleading declaration. But have they read the book? No, of course not; that might demolish their prejudices.

    “My school teacher believed it so it must be true,” is the mentality that has enabled this whole Covid fraud and much else beside. Those who cling to nonsensical beliefs condemn themselves. You can lead a horse to water….
    I can do nothing more than to suggest where you might find knowledge but I cannot make you think or question – these are your own, personal responsibility.

    I do seem to recall one previous Great Teacher saying something along the lines of “Judge not lest ye be judged”. I’m pretty sure this was not meant in the sense of jurisprudence but of assumptions, of leaping to conclusions. Nonetheless, I note that several have done precisely this: Accusing me of causing death and suffering based upon zero evidence but purely upon their own prejudices.
    This is what Jeshua meant; prejudice has the sole effect of preventing you learning that which you need to know. I can’t make you know; all that I can do is to show you where knowledge is to be found.
    Try this one for size:-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hykEfLKZRJ8&list=PL1QsWDO3s4mMBrAEXTBRfT8RyuDOJcNzn

    Maybe someday it will be time for another chat on Merseyside sceptics.

    Blessed be

    Karma Singh

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