Skeptics with a K: Episode #281


In this episode of Skeptics with a K, Marsh and Alice talk about the recent BBC documentary on ‘alternative’ cancer treatments. This episode deals with a difficult subject matter throughout and some listeners may find the conversation distressing.

Mixed and edited by Morgan Clarke.

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  1. #1 by Sarah on July 28, 2020 - 15:51

    Thank you for this episode. I watched the documentary as a result and it was excellent and heartbreaking, and your discussion really added a lot of useful background.

  2. #2 by Jack on August 7, 2020 - 22:51

    Great episode. Listening to how you get pulled in to a pseudoscience rabbit hole was surreal. That was exactly the process I got sucked in years ago with Mercola, Mike Adams and the rest, leading to crazy levels of ignorant beliefs that I defended vehemently with “research” and “evidence”.
    Eventually I found a skeptical podcast, which I disagreed with on many fronts, believing they didn’t really know the “truth” about fluoride,GMO, mercury etc.Thankfully, I gradually learnt to be a critical thinker and wondered how I got so far down that rabbit hole of misinformation. Unfortunately, I had a few converts amongst my friends and colleagues and the sad bit is I have only managed to pull out just a fraction.The majority are too far gone, but all I can do is keep trying.

  3. #3 by Follow The Money on October 22, 2020 - 03:48

    1. Whether or not we develop diagnosable cancer, most of us have cancer cells in our bodies at one time or another. The average person has cancer cells in their body at least half a dozen times. But cancer cells do not become obvious or a threat until they have accumulated in their billions.
    2. It is the body’s immune system which helps destroy cancer cells and prevent them from developing into life-threatening tumours.
    3. An individual’s diet and lifestyle have a huge impact on their likelihood of developing cancer. Most people know that smoking can cause cancer. Fewer realise that foodstuffs such as meat are as likely to cause cancer as tobacco.
    4. Genetic and environmental factors also affect our likelihood of developing cancer. Some types of cancer (such as breast cancer) can be inherited. Working with some chemicals, or consuming chemicals in food, can trigger a serious cancer development. Some people believe that substances such as vaccines can damage the immune system and may explain the increase in the number of patients suffering from cancer.
    5. The most important way to avoid cancer (and to treat it if it has developed) is to strengthen the immune system.
    6. An individual’s state of mind can also affect his or her chances of developing cancer. People who are constantly angry or bitter seem to be more likely to develop cancer. Those who relax and laugh a good deal are less likely to develop cancer and more likely to survive a cancer.
    7. Many treatments for cancer seem to make things worse. Chemotherapy is designed to poison rapidly growing cancer cells but it also kills healthy cells and can damage just about all the body’s organs. (Hair falls out during chemotherapy because innocent cells are being killed.) Radiation can destroy cancer cells but it also burns and damages healthy cells and organs. Both chemotherapy and radiotherapy seem to cause lethal damage if they are used for too long. Chemotherapy and radiotherapy are likely to damage the immune system – thereby making the body vulnerable to infections and also harming the body’s ability to fight the cancer and to heal itself. Both chemotherapy and radiotherapy can also cause cancer cells to mutate and become stronger. Surgery can result in cancer spreading to other sites within the body.
    8. Cancer cells thrive on sugar, milk and meat. A diet which is largely (but not necessarily exclusively) vegetarian will help prevent cancer and help treat it.
    9. Drinks which are rich in caffeine can be harmful if taken in excess. Tap water often contains drug residues and toxins which can be harmful. Bottled spring water may be safer.
    10. Oxygen helps fight cancer cells. The human body becomes well oxygenated when it is exercised regularly.

    If you had a business selling something that made you well over a hundred billion dollars per year, would you take steps to eradicate the need for your business? Or would you make every effort for that money continue rolling in?

    Take cancer, for example. Don’t let all the media hype about “The Cure” fool you. No one who is in a position to do so wants to end cancer because they are all making a killing on the big business of treatment, while ordinary people go broke, suffer horribly, and die.

    There will never be a “cure” brought to market because there just isn’t enough profit in eradicating the disease entirely. There will never be a governing body that protects consumers from being subjected to known carcinogens, because that too, will stop the cash from rolling in. A great deal of research is covered up and many potential cures are ignored and discredited because there is far more money in perpetuating illness than in curing it. Now, where’s the rat poison–I mean, chemo?

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