Be Reasonable: Episode #070 – Cynthia Sue Larson


Marsh is joined by Cynthia Sue Larson, president of the International Mandela Effect Conference, founder of RealityShifters and author of books including Quantum Jumps, Reality Shifts, and High Energy Money

In this episode, we explore why people believe everyday details about our world differ from the version in our memories, and what this means for our ability to perceive reality.

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  1. #1 by JHolst on May 22, 2021 - 13:45

    Quantum. Quantum? Yes, Quantum.

    To be a little more serious, I actually did find this guest to be somewhat reasonable on the surface and at least able to establish an internally consistent structure for their beliefs.

    However, there were two red flags (amongst numerous other issues) I wanted to note:

    1. The discussion of Carol Loftus, the claim that Loftus has a strong bias and is ‘paid’ for her work. This reminded me of people who thought the Satanic Panic was real and attacked Loftus’ work on this basis.

    2. I can only imagine a QAnon person getting a hold of this and claiming that Donald Trump is actually still president and reality will soon shift and make this clear to everyone again.

  2. #2 by Graeme McRae on May 22, 2021 - 15:31

    We have a running joke in our family whose punchline is “the scissors have *always* been in that drawer!” The punchline comes up every time my wife moves the scissors to a different drawer, and in the process she seems to completely forget they were ever in their former drawer, indignantly shouting the punchline whenever someone suggests the scissors have been moved. This is a perfect example of the Mandela Effect, and, of course, the most reasonable explanation is that one of us has misremembered the historical scissor location (or the other one moved the scissors but then forgot about it).
    I can think of a few other examples, such as my brother breaking into our parents house while they were away, surprising the house-sitters, and then later denying it ever happened.
    Family members confronted by differing memories react sometimes with anger, but more often with laughter. Either way, they make great family stories.

  3. #3 by Matthew on May 23, 2021 - 02:13

    I have recently been taking early morning walks and listening to podcasts along the way. I dont remember downloading this podcast but somehow it found its way into my earholes. Each morning I grab my keys from the “key spot”, go for and walk and return the keys to the “key spot”. This morning I could not find the keys in the “key spot” even though I distinctly remember placing the keys there. Wouldn’t you know it, once I checked the shorts I had worn yesterday there were the keys still inside the pocket.

    Normally I would chalk this down as me forgetting to return the keys and not remembering because I usually do return the keys (or do I?). After listening to this podcast it made me think: did reality change subtly to move the keys from the “key spot” into my shorts pocket; OR did reality change subtly to alter my memory of not returning the keys to a memory of returning the keys even though I didn’t?

    I guess there is not way to know.

    I was talking about this to a friend I met while walking around the neighbourhood and they told me they avoid this whole issue by not taking keys with them on their morning walk. Instead they realised one day that their front door exists in a superposition of being open and shut at the same time so they can just kind of phase through the door. This obviously only works around twilight when the laws of quantum physics are more dominant than classical mechanics. Its quite convenient for the early morning walks though – avoids that whole key finding Mandela effect.

    The real reality shift is the friends we made along the way.

  4. #4 by Rob on May 23, 2021 - 23:19

    I think Marsh really missed a trick, when she said “Stephen Hawking, who’s sadly passed away now…” in not saying “Stephen Hawking isn’t dead” then going “woahhh, shiiit” on slowly ‘discovering’ that he is actually dead.
    I mean, it would be completely at odds with the spirit of Be Reasonable, and would take on a “This proves it!” life of its own in the Mandela Effect community, but it would have been funny.

  5. #5 by Rob on May 24, 2021 - 11:53

    Towards the end it went a bit like this:
    SUE: “People seem to have great power to imagine all sorts of things about the past and convince themselves of it…”
    ME: “Yes. This. Exactly this.”
    SUE: “…thereby changing the past through retrocausality.”
    ME: “Oh, no.”

  6. #6 by Michael Champion on May 29, 2021 - 09:10

    Mandela effect = so Americans don’t have good international news then, or international sporting events.
    And, people believe things they saw in movies/TV, which were wrong (kidney punch).
    Colour of crisps, sorry, we know that walkers started to have a different colour than the other brands then they became bigger and some others followed them!
    Sorry, as someone who has a physics degree, what is easier to believe, that reality changes or that humans don’t have perfect memories…. O wait, she thinks the 2nd!

  7. #7 by Mister Sandwich on May 29, 2021 - 18:19

    Is it me, or is the Mandela Effect just an extreme manifestation of white people thinking the world revolves around them?

  8. #8 by Arlo on September 19, 2021 - 16:55

    Wow, what arrogance!
    I CANNOT be mistaken about something that is either trivial (the name of a children’s book they saw once) or that I’m generally ignorant of (don’t know who Nelson Mandela was, just heard the name) so the whole of reality must have changed at some point! It is amazing the lengths some people will go to avoid admitting that they are imperfect.

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