Skeptics with a K: Episode #312

Marsh talks about the ups and downs of the regulation of chiropractors in the UK, and Mike talks about what exactly he means when he says ‘the placebo effect isn’t real’. Meanwhile, Alice gets annoyed at people being awful, and Mike visits the Covid test centre.

Mixed and edited by Morgan Clarke.

  1. #1 by Shaun on October 5, 2021 - 16:27

    I’ve participated in a group session at a pain clinic where one of the nurses asked if anyone could describe the placebo effect. I answered, giving almost exactly the same definition Alice gave in this episode. The nurse said basically “well yes, but also your brain secretes natural opiates when you’re given a placebo which reduces your pain”.

    They also claimed you had to believe in their treatment for it to work. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I asked if they meant you wouldn’t follow their directions as diligently if you didn’t believe they would do anything. To my shock they clarified that even if you did 100% exactly the same as someone who did believe, but you just didn’t believe, you wouldn’t benefit and they would. Unsurprisingly, there was much more wrong with this (public hospital) clinic that would take too long to get into here.

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